Legislature(2007 - 2008)HOUSE FINANCE 519

02/27/2008 01:30 PM House FINANCE


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02:01:22 PM Start
02:01:38 PM HB310 || HB312
06:15:37 PM Adjourn
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+= HB 310 APPROP: OPERATING BUDGET/LOANS/FUNDS TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 310(FIN) Out of Committee
-- Testimony <Invitation Only> --
+= HB 312 APPROP: MENTAL HEALTH BUDGET TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 312(FIN) Out of Committee
-- Testimony <Invitation Only> --
Amendments
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
HOUSE BILL NO. 310                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     An  Act making  appropriations  for  the operating  and                                                                    
     loan program expenses of  state government, for certain                                                                    
     programs, and to  capitalize funds; making supplemental                                                                    
     appropriations;  and making  appropriations under  art.                                                                    
     IX, sec.  17(c), Constitution of  the State  of Alaska;                                                                    
     and providing for an effective date.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 312                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     An  Act making  appropriations  for  the operating  and                                                                    
     capital    expenses   of    the   state's    integrated                                                                    
     comprehensive mental health  program; and providing for                                                                    
     an effective date.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
LANGUAGE                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Chenault MOVED to ADOPT amendment LANG 1.  Co-                                                                         
Chair Meyer OBJECTED.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     ADD a new language section:                                                                                                
     It is the intent of  the legislature that general funds                                                                    
     be  the  last  fund  source to  be  expended  from  any                                                                    
     appropriation that  has multiple  fund sources.   It is                                                                    
     the  intent  of  the  legislature that  the  Office  of                                                                    
     Management   and   Budget   and   the   Department   of                                                                    
     Administration assist  the legislature in  carrying out                                                                    
     this intent.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Chenault explained that the allocations permitted                                                                      
to carry-forward non-general funds from prior fiscal years                                                                      
often spend General Funds in order to maximize those carry-                                                                     
forward from other  funding sources.  The  language has been                                                                    
designed to encourage agencies to  follow a traditional, but                                                                    
unwritten,  policy  that  is intended  to  minimize  lapsing                                                                    
General Funds.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer WITHDREW his OBJECTION.  There being NO                                                                          
further OBJECTION, LANG 1 was adopted.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:04:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Nelson MOVED to ADOPT amendment LANG 2.  Co-                                                                     
Chair Chenault OBJECTED.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Page 57, Line 1, following "DEVELOPMENT"                                                                                   
     Insert "(a)"                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Page 57, following Line 4:                                                                                                 
     Insert a new subsection to read:                                                                                           
     (b) The  sum of  $200 thousand dollars  is appropriated                                                                    
     from the  General Fund to  the Department  of Education                                                                    
     and Early  Development for payment as  grants to school                                                                    
     districts  that  operate  a   charter  school  with  an                                                                    
     average daily  membership of less than  150 for support                                                                    
     of  those charter  schools in  those districts  for the                                                                    
     fiscal  year   ending  June  30,  2009.     The  amount                                                                    
     appropriated under  this subsection shall  be allocated                                                                    
     among eligible school districts  in the proportion that                                                                    
     the average  daily membership  of the  eligible charter                                                                    
     schools  in the  district  bears to  the total  average                                                                    
     daily  membership of  all eligible  charter schools  in                                                                    
     all school  districts that operate an  eligible charter                                                                    
     school.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Nelson explained the proposed language.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Chenault  stated that  last year the  component had                                                                    
been  cut to  $50  thousand dollars  in  the Capital  Budget                                                                    
process.   In  previous years,  it had  been funded  at $100                                                                    
thousand  dollars.   The original  intent  of funding  those                                                                    
dollars was  to help charter schools  provide services while                                                                    
attempting to grow the schools up to the 150 student level.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:07:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Meyer pointed  out that  the  issue comes  forward                                                                    
every year with the intent  that it be a  one-time  funding.                                                                    
He  agreed  with  the comments  made  by  Co-Chair  Chenault                                                                    
noting that  only three schools  would be  impacted, Juneau,                                                                    
Nome and the Kenai Borough.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Nelson  commented  that  last  year  it  was                                                                    
funded at  $100 thousand  dollars and  the previous  year it                                                                    
was  funded at  $200  thousand dollars.   Co-Chair  Chenault                                                                    
disagreed, stating that it was cut to $50 thousand dollars.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gara said  he  understood  the arguments  on                                                                    
both  sides.   He explained  the  logic of  the proposal  of                                                                    
placing  it in  the budget  permanently.   Co-Chair Chenault                                                                    
clarified  that the  appropriation was  made in  the capital                                                                    
budget, not the operating budget.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
A  roll call  vote was  taken on  the motion  to adopt  LANG                                                                    
Amendment 2.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR:      Joule, Nelson, Crawford, Gara                                                                                    
OPPOSED:       Hawker,   Kelly,  Stoltze,   Thomas,  Harris,                                                                    
               Meyer, Chenault                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION FAILED (4-7).                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
AT EASE:       2:11:16 PM                                                                                                     
RECONVENE:          2:27:42 PM                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Kelly  MOVED  to  ADOPT  amendment  LANG  3.                                                                    
Vice-Chair Stoltze OBJECTED.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     DEPARTMENT:         Department of Natural Resources                                                                        
     APPROPRIATION:      Resource Development                                                                                   
     ALLOCATION:         Pipeline Coordinator                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     ADD:                Subsection to Section 15:                                                                              
     The  sum of  $213.4  thousand  dollars is  appropriated                                                                    
     from  federal receipts  to  the  Department of  Natural                                                                    
     Resources,      Resource     Development,      Pipeline                                                                    
     Coordinator's  office   for  a   cooperative  agreement                                                                    
     between  the U.S.  Bureau of  Land  Management and  the                                                                    
     Department for  the fiscal year  ending June  30, 2010,                                                                    
     and June 30, 2011.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Kelly  explained  that the  amendment  would                                                                    
establish a multi-year appropriation  that would sunset when                                                                    
the new  cooperative federal agreement with  the U.S. Bureau                                                                    
of Land  Management ends  on June 30,  2011.   The agreement                                                                    
will  be   finalized  between  the   U.S.  Bureau   of  Land                                                                    
Management   and  the   Department  of   Natural  Resources,                                                                    
pipeline  coordinator's office.    The  agreement will  span                                                                    
three  years and  reappropriations shared  costs to  include                                                                    
the building lease,  IT, phones and copiers.   The agreement                                                                    
provides  federal  reimbursement  of  up  to  $276  thousand                                                                    
dollars  for applicable  shared  costs, and  an increase  of                                                                    
$312 thousand dollars.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Stoltze  WITHDREW his OBJECTION.   There being NO                                                                    
further OBJECTION, it was adopted.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:28:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Stoltze  MOVED to  ADOPT amendment  LANG 4.   Co-                                                                    
Chair Meyer OBJECTED.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     AMEND LANGUAGE:                                                                                                            
     SECTION 16 by adding two new subsections:                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     (c)  The sum of $1.270  million dollars is appropriated                                                                  
          from the General Fund to  the Department of Public                                                                    
          Safety,   Division  of   Alaska  State   Troopers,                                                                    
          special projects for  rural alcoholic interdiction                                                                    
          efforts  during the  fiscal year  ending June  30,                                                                    
          2009.                                                                                                                 
     (d)  If   federal   receipts   are  received   by   the                                                                  
          Department of Public Safety  for the rural alcohol                                                                    
          interdiction  program   during  the   fiscal  year                                                                    
          ending June 30, 2009,  the appropriation in (c) of                                                                    
          this  section  is reduced  by  the  amount of  the                                                                    
          federal receipts.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Stoltze explained  that both  the Department  of                                                                    
Public Safety and the Department  of Law are requesting fund                                                                    
source changes in  FY09 to replace lost  federal funding for                                                                    
the Rural  Alcohol Interdiction Program.   The Department of                                                                    
Public  Safety  requested  $870  thousand  dollars  and  the                                                                    
Department  of Law  requested $400  thousand  dollars.   The                                                                    
amendment  funds the  Department of  Public Safety  with the                                                                    
entire General  Fund replacement;  the agency  will continue                                                                    
to  provide interagency  receipts to  the Department  of Law                                                                    
for program related attorney services.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Meyer  WITHDREW  his  OBJECTION.  There  being  NO                                                                    
further OBJECTION, it was adopted.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:30:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Chenault MOVED  to ADOPT  amendment LANG  5.   Co-                                                                    
Chair Meyer OBJECTED.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     AMEND Section 18(d) as follows:                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     (e) The governor shall allocate amounts in (a) of                                                                        
          this section as follows:                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
          (1) to the Department of Transportation and                                                                         
               Public Facilities, 65 percent of the total                                                                       
               plus or minus 10 percent;                                                                                        
          (2) to the University of Alaska eight [10]                                                                      
               percent of the total plus or minus three                                                                         
               percent;                                                                                                         
          (3) to the Department of Health and Social                                                                          
               Services and the Department of Corrections,                                                                      
               not more than five percent of the total                                                                          
               amount appropriated for each department;                                                                         
          (4) to any other state agency, not more than                                                                        
               four    percent   of    the   total    amount                                                                    
               appropriated;                                                                                                    
          (5) the aggregate amount allocated may not                                                                          
               exceed 100 percent of the appropriation.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Chenault   explained  that  the   amendment  would                                                                    
restore the fuel  allocation to the University  of Alaska to                                                                    
the  8% level  in effect  for FY07  and FY08.   Analysis  of                                                                    
supplemental  requests to  cover fuel  costs indicates  that                                                                    
the change  in the  committee substitute would  be necessary                                                                    
only if General  Funds were used to pay for  the 100% of the                                                                    
cost  increases.   The  amendment  indicates an  expectation                                                                    
that  the University  pay a  share of  increased fuel  costs                                                                    
from the University receipts.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer WITHDREW his OBJECTION.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara  OBJECTED for  discussion purposes.   He                                                                    
asked if fuel costs for the University would be decreased.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Chenault pointed  out that they had  been funded at                                                                    
8%  previously.   The  question  was  with regard  to  using                                                                    
General Funds  over other  funding sources.   Representative                                                                    
Gara   questioned  how   that   change   would  affect   the                                                                    
University's budget.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:33:23 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DAVID   TEAL,   DIRECTOR,  LEGISLATIVE   FINANCE   DIVISION,                                                                    
acknowledged that  Representative Gara  was correct  in that                                                                    
the University does  not have other fund sources  to pay for                                                                    
the fuel  costs.   However, the 8%  should be  sufficient to                                                                    
pay the fuel costs  in FY09 if the "size of  the pie is made                                                                    
larger".    In the  committee  substitute,  the trigger  was                                                                    
increased to  a maximum of  $24 million dollars;  at current                                                                    
oil  prices,  the  share  would   be  increased  around  $37                                                                    
thousand dollars.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara referenced  Sections 1, 2 &  3 and asked                                                                    
if the  intent was to  compensate the State entities  as the                                                                    
benchmark.  Mr. Teal said yes.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara  commented that if  the goal was  to get                                                                    
the  University  coverage  for the  fuel  costs,  could  the                                                                    
language  accomplish that.    Co-Chair  Chenault thought  it                                                                    
would.   Mr. Teal advised that  it would depend on  how much                                                                    
of the fuel costs the General  Fund would pay & how much the                                                                    
University  receipts  pay.   The  trigger  is based  on  the                                                                    
supplemental requests  trigger for FY09; they  had requested                                                                    
an  additional $2.3  million dollars  over  the amount  they                                                                    
received.   Last  year, the  trigger was  too low  for every                                                                    
department, which  was adjusted  by the  amount distributed.                                                                    
The question is who pays for it.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara  understood that adopting  the amendment                                                                    
indicates that  the University's  contribution will  need to                                                                    
be  higher  to cover  the  fuel  costs.   Co-Chair  Chenault                                                                    
clarified that the  real issue is how much  General Funds be                                                                    
used.   He thought  the fuel  mechanism was  being addressed                                                                    
for all departments, not just for the University.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:39:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Chenault suggested  that  the supplemental  budget                                                                    
process  should   be  the  place   to  address   the  issue.                                                                    
Representative   Gara   clarified   the   process   of   the                                                                    
supplemental requests.   Co-Chair  Chenault stated  that the                                                                    
Governor's  budget  included  $7.1 million  dollars  as  the                                                                    
trigger mechanism.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara WITHDREW his  OBJECTION.  There being NO                                                                    
OBJECTION, it was so ordered.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:43:05 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Chenault MOVED  to ADOPT  amendment LANG  6.   Co-                                                                    
Chair Meyer OBJECTED.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     DELETE LANGUAGE IN SECTION 25(b) and insert:                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     The amount  necessary to  pay the  first five  ports of                                                                    
     call  their  share  of  the   tax  collected  under  AS                                                                    
     43.52.220  in  calendar  year  2008,  according  to  AS                                                                    
     43.52.230(b),  is  appropriated   from  the  commercial                                                                    
     passenger vessel  excise tax account  (AS 43.52.230(a))                                                                    
     to the  Department of Revenue  for payments  during the                                                                    
     fiscal year ending June 30, 2009.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Chenault explained that  the language would clarify                                                                    
that the receipts  collected in 2008 calendar  year from the                                                                    
commercial  vessel head  tax are  to be  distributed per  AS                                                                    
43.52.230(b) in fiscal year 2009.   The intent is to provide                                                                    
payment to the qualifying  local governments upon completion                                                                    
of the  calendar year as soon  as possible after the  end of                                                                    
the calendar year.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Meyer  WITHDREW his  OBJECTION.    There being  NO                                                                    
further OBJECTION, it was adopted.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:44:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara  MOVED to ADOPT  amendment LANG 7.   Co-                                                                    
Chair Meyer OBJECTED.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Page 72, following Line 21:                                                                                                
     Insert new subsection to read:                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     (d) The sum of $3,500,000,000 is appropriated from                                                                         
          the General Fund to the budget reserve fund (art.                                                                     
          IX, sec. 17, Constitution of the State of                                                                             
          Alaska);                                                                                                              
     (e) The sum of $1,500,000,000 is appropriated from                                                                         
          the General Fund to the budget reserve fund (art.                                                                     
          IX, sec. 17, Constitution of the State of                                                                             
          Alaska)."                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Re-letter the following subsection accordingly:                                                                            
     Page 73, Line 3, following "10(a)":                                                                                        
     Insert ",27(d),"                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gara explained  the  amendment does  address                                                                    
anticipated  surplus for  the State  with  the intention  of                                                                    
placing  a certain  amount  of the  funds  into the  Capital                                                                    
Budget Reserve  (CBR).   He hoped  that the  amendment would                                                                    
provide  conversation  with   the  Administration  regarding                                                                    
those surplus numbers.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara WITHDREW amendment LANG 7.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:45:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND SOCIAL SERVICES                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hawker  MOVED  to  ADOPT  amendment  HSS  1.                                                                    
Vice-Chair Stoltze OBJECTED.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     DEPARTMENT:    Department   of    Health   and   Social                                                                    
Services                                                                                                                        
     APPROPRIATION: Public Assistance                                                                                           
     ALLOCATION:    General Relief Assistance                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     DELETE:        6 Permanent Full-Time Positions                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     APPROPRIATION: Public Assistance                                                                                           
     ALLOCATION:    Senior Benefits Payment Program                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     ADD:           6 Permanent Full-Time Positions                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hawker explained  that  the amendment  would                                                                    
transfer six  permanent full-time positions from  the Public                                                                    
Assistance, General Relief Assistance  Program to the Public                                                                    
Assistance   Senior   Benefits   Payment   Program.      The                                                                    
transaction  transferring the  funding was  accepted by  the                                                                    
Department   of   Health    and   Social   Services   budget                                                                    
subcommittee,   however,   the   six   permanent   full-time                                                                    
positions were  inadvertently omitted from  the transaction.                                                                    
The amendment will correct that oversight.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Stoltze  WITHDREW his OBJECTION.   There being NO                                                                    
further OBJECTION, it was adopted.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:47:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hawker MOVED  to ADOPT amendment HSS  2.  Co-                                                                    
Chair Meyer OBJECTED.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     DEPARTMENT:    Department   of    Health   and   Social                                                                    
Services                                                                                                                        
     APPROPRIATION: Behavioral Health                                                                                           
     ALLOCATION:    Behavioral Health Administration                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     ADD:           $200.0 OTI/ 1 TMP                                                                                           
                    Suicide     Prevention    Strategy     &                                                                    
Implement.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     FUNDING SOURCE: General Funds 1004                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     ADD INTENT LANGUAGE:                                                                                                       
     It is  the intent  of the  legislature that  the $200.0                                                                    
     increment  in   the  FY  09  budget   for  the  Suicide                                                                    
     Prevention   Strategy   and  Implementation   Plan   be                                                                    
     dedicated  to  developing  a best  practices,  evidence                                                                    
     based  multi-dimensional  strategy  and  implementation                                                                    
     plan to reduce  the rates of suicide  in targeted rural                                                                    
     regions of the  state with the highest  current rate of                                                                    
     suicide.  The  strategy   and  plan  must  specifically                                                                    
     propose the means to reduce  in the rate of suicide and                                                                    
     address  various  dimensions  of  the  issue  including                                                                    
     differing  age  and   social  demographics  of  at-risk                                                                    
     populations  as  well  as  implementation  alternatives                                                                    
     available  in the  targeted regions.  The plan  must be                                                                    
     developed   in  coordination   with  stakeholders   and                                                                    
     relevant  resources   in  the  targeted   regions.  The                                                                    
     Suicide  Prevention  Strategy and  Implementation  Plan                                                                    
     must be  completed and available to  the legislature no                                                                    
     later than December 15, 2008.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Hawker  explained   pilot  project   for  a                                                                    
targeted,  evidence  based,   multidimensional  strategy  to                                                                    
reduce   the  occurrence   of  suicide   in   Alaska.     An                                                                    
implementation  plan  is  to  be  developed  to  reduce  the                                                                    
suicide  rate  in  coordination with  targeted  regions  and                                                                    
communities with  the targeted regions and  communities with                                                                    
the current highest rates of suicide.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:58:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hawker  continued the  discussion  regarding                                                                    
the targeted base areas.   He emphasized that the funds need                                                                    
to   be  targeted   into   suicide   prevention,  which   is                                                                    
accomplished through HSS 2.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Meyer  WITHDREW his  OBJECTION.    There being  NO                                                                    
further OBJECTION, it was adopted.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:03:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hawker  MOVED  to  ADOPT  amendment  HSS  3.                                                                    
Vice-Chair Stoltze OBJECTED.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     DEPARTMENT:    Department   of    Health   and   Social                                                                    
Services                                                                                                                        
     APPROPRIATION: Behavioral Health                                                                                           
     ALLOCATION:    Behavioral Health Grants                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     ADD:           $750.0 General Fund                                                                                         
                    Substance Abuse Provider Rate Increase                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     FUNDING SOURCE: General Fund 1004                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     ADD INTENT LANGUAGE:                                                                                                       
     It is  the intent  of the  legislature that  the $750.0                                                                    
     increment  in the  FY09  budget  for behavioral  health                                                                    
     grants be  used exclusively to provide  additional base                                                                    
     funding for  existing core services of  current grantee                                                                    
     providers  of  adolescent  and  adult  substance  abuse                                                                    
     intervention   or   treatment    services,   who   have                                                                    
     demonstrated   successful    outcomes   documented   in                                                                    
     accordance  with  the  Department's  performance  based                                                                    
     evaluation procedures.  The Department  should continue                                                                    
     work on  implementing a provider rate  rebasing process                                                                    
     and specific funding  recommendations for both Medicaid                                                                    
     and   non-Medicaid  providers   to  be   completed  and                                                                    
     available  to the  legislature no  later than  December                                                                    
     15, 2008.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Hawker   explained   that   the   amendment                                                                    
addresses  all provider  services that  are at  risk because                                                                    
they  are not  able to  meet  client needs.   The  amendment                                                                    
provides money  targeted directly to the  base of behavioral                                                                    
health  providers, specifically  substance abuse  providers.                                                                    
It will provide  $750 thousand dollars.   He emphasized that                                                                    
the intent language is critical to the amendment.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gara pointed  out  that  the Department  had                                                                    
proposed  other $1.7  million dollar  request increases  for                                                                    
substance abuse  treatment and  services.   He asked  if the                                                                    
proposed funds  would replace that request.   Representative                                                                    
Hawker clarified why the $1.7  million dollars requests were                                                                    
not  honored; the  proposed funding  is intended  to  expand                                                                    
programs".   The subcommittee advised it  was more important                                                                    
to shore-up the base than to expand any programs.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:08:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Crawford   appreciated  the   $750  thousand                                                                    
dollars  but   preferred  the   numbers  requested   by  the                                                                    
Governor.  He  addressed the basic human service  needs.  He                                                                    
hoped  it  would  be  different next  year.    He  indicated                                                                    
support for the amendment.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gara  recalled  previous  testimony  from  a                                                                    
former  director of  the State's  substance abuse  programs,                                                                    
noting  that the  State  currently  provides fewer  programs                                                                    
than five or ten  years ago.  He asked if  the intent was to                                                                    
provide   the  same   level  of   services  as   last  year.                                                                    
Representative Hawker  explained that  he would not  want to                                                                    
place  the Department  into a  greater risk  due to  loss of                                                                    
federal funding; he hope to  address the existing provider's                                                                    
ability to handle existing needs.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Joule   recommended   the   importance   of                                                                    
evaluating  existing programs,  ensuring base  funding.   He                                                                    
spoke in support of the amendment.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Meyer  WITHDREW his  OBJECTION.    There being  NO                                                                    
further OBJECTION, it was adopted.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:15:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hawker MOVED  to ADOPT amendment HSS  4.  Co-                                                                    
Chair Meyer OBJECTED.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     DEPARTMENT:    Department   of    Health   and   Social                                                                    
Services                                                                                                                        
     APPROPRIATION: Departmental Support Services                                                                               
     ALLOCATION:     Commissioner's Office                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     DELETE INTENT:                                                                                                             
     It  is   the  intent   of  the  legislature   that  the                                                                    
     department   continues   working  on   implementing   a                                                                    
     provider rate rebasing process.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     ADD INTENT:                                                                                                                
     It  is   the  intent   of  the  legislature   that  the                                                                    
     department   continues   working  on   implementing   a                                                                    
     provider  rate rebasing  process  and specific  funding                                                                    
     recommendations  for  both  Medicaid  and  non-Medicaid                                                                    
     providers  to   be  completed  and  available   to  the                                                                    
     legislature no later than December 15, 2008.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Hawker   explained   that   the   amendment                                                                    
addresses     the     non-Medicaid    eligible     re-basing                                                                    
recommendations and provides more thorough intent language.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer WITHDREW his OBJECTION.  There being NO                                                                          
further OBJECTION, amendment HSS 4 was adopted.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:16:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hawker MOVED to ADOPT amendment HSS 5.  Co-                                                                      
Chair Meyer OBJECTED.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     DEPARTMENT:    Department   of    Health   and   Social                                                                    
Services                                                                                                                        
     APPROPRIATION: Public Health                                                                                               
     ALLOCATION:    Health Planning and Infrastructure                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     ADD:           $250.0 OTI                                                                                                  
                    Anchorage Project Access                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
                    Grant to Named Recipient:                                                                                   
                    In accordance  with AS 37.05.316,  it is                                                                    
                    intended  that  $250.0 General  Fund  be                                                                    
                    provided  as  a   grant  to    Anchorage                                                                    
                    Project Access.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     FUNDING SOURCE: General Fund 1004                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Hawker   explained   that   the   amendment                                                                    
addresses the Anchorage Project Access,  which is based on a                                                                    
national model  that has proven  to improve  health outcomes                                                                    
and reduce  emergency room charity  care costs.   Similar to                                                                    
pro bono services provided by  attorneys, the model provides                                                                    
specialty  medical care  to those  who  meet the  qualifying                                                                    
criteria;  income  less  than 200%  of  the  poverty  level,                                                                    
uninsured,  medical  need  and Anchorage  resident  (10%  of                                                                    
quarterly  referral  may be  referred  from  outside of  the                                                                    
Anchorage Bowl).  The Anchorage  Project Access is under the                                                                    
501c3  umbrella of  Christian  Health  Associates (CHA)  dba                                                                    
Anchorage Project Access.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Crawford   added,  the   amendment   places                                                                    
together willing  providers and  those that have  the needs.                                                                    
He urged passage.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Stoltze inquired  if the  doctors providing  the                                                                    
pro bono  were in  the same class  as those  people exempted                                                                    
from coverage in the personal injury, tried by attorneys.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:20:35 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hawker did not know.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kelly asked if funding  had been given to the                                                                    
CHA previous  years.   Representative  Hawker responded that                                                                    
the State had previously funded the increment.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Stoltze  WITHDREW his OBJECTION.   There being NO                                                                    
further OBJECTIONS, the amendment was adopted.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:22:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Crawford  MOVED to ADOPT amendment  HSS 6 for                                                                    
the purpose of discussion.  Vice-Chair Stoltze OBJECTED.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     DEPARTMENT:    Department   of    Health   and   Social                                                                    
Services                                                                                                                        
     APPROPRIATION: Behavioral Health                                                                                           
     ALLOCATION:    Behavioral Health Grants                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     ADD:           $1,750,000                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     FUNDING SOURCE: 1037 General Fund/Mental Health                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Crawford  discussed  that for  services  for                                                                    
substance  use  disorders   comprehensive  system  of  care,                                                                    
Alaskans  in the  large  urban  communities, currently  must                                                                    
wait one  to three months  to receive treatment, if  they do                                                                    
not present  a danger  to themselves  or others.   Available                                                                    
detoxification  services  are  at a  maximum  capacity,  and                                                                    
failure  to meet  the  need leads  to  more costly  hospital                                                                    
admissions,     inappropriate      incarceration,     public                                                                    
inebriation,  and placement  into  the correctional  system.                                                                    
In  addition,  there is  a  failure  to appropriately  serve                                                                    
dual-disordered clients, such as  those with traumatic brain                                                                    
injury and  a substance use  disorder.  The  increment would                                                                    
fund grants  to create an  enhanced continuum of  care, from                                                                    
the  least restrictive  to the  most  intensive.   Substance                                                                    
abuse  treatment  providers  also  are in  need  of  a  rate                                                                    
increase  similar to  those  under  consideration for  other                                                                    
providers  within  the  behavioral health  delivery  system.                                                                    
Recipients of substance abuse  treatment are seldom eligible                                                                    
for Medicaid.   Funds are not available to  provide the rate                                                                    
increase  through leverage  of federal  funds.   The funding                                                                    
could  provide  up to  a  9%  increase for  substance  abuse                                                                    
treatment  providers  to  allow  providers to  catch  up  to                                                                    
current costs.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hawker agreed  with Representative Crawford                                                                      
assessment.   There  are other  increments  in the  proposed                                                                    
budget to address  the above mentioned concerns.   He listed                                                                    
all  the  proposed  allocations  within  the  Department  of                                                                    
Health  and Social  Services subcommittee  budget proposals.                                                                    
He   highlighted  the   allocations  to   the  Division   of                                                                    
Behavioral Health.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Stoltze  WITHDREW his OBJECTION.   Representative                                                                    
Crawford WITHDREW amendment HSS 6.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:27:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gara   MOVED  to  ADOPT  amendment   HSS  7.                                                                    
Representative Hawker OBJECTED.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     DEPARTMENT:    Department   of    Health   and   Social                                                                    
Services                                                                                                                        
     APPROPRIATION: Behavioral Health                                                                                           
     ALLOCATION:    Behavior Health Grants  Treatment and                                                                       
                    Services for clients with severe mental                                                                     
                    illness and co-occurring disorders                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     ADD:           $1,750,000                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     FUNDING SOURCE: General Fund 1004                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara  explained that the  appropriation would                                                                    
fund  grants   that  provide  essential  services   for  the                                                                    
severely mentally  ill who also suffer  from substance abuse                                                                    
problems     dual  diagnosis.    Needs  have  increased  and                                                                    
funding has decreased.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hawker  commented   that  funding  would  be                                                                    
premature at  this time.  Representative  Gara recalled that                                                                    
the previous  funding as mentioned by  Representative Hawker                                                                    
was  inadequate  to prevent  further  losses.   Without  the                                                                    
increment,  to  prevent  losses to  the  existing  services,                                                                    
funding the request is essential.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hawker MAINTAINED his OBJECTION.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR:      Nelson, Crawford, Gara                                                                                           
OPPOSED:       Kelly, Stoltz, Thomas,  Hawker, Joule, Meyer,                                                                    
               Chenault                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative Harris was not present for the vote.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION FAILED (7-3).                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
AT EASE:       3:33:13 PM                                                                                                     
RECONVENE:          3:47:46 PM                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Nelson MOVED  to ADOPT amendment HSS  8.  Co-                                                                    
Chair Meyer OBJECTED.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     DEPARTMENT:    Department   of    Health   and   Social                                                                    
Services                                                                                                                        
     APPROPRIATION: Public Assistance                                                                                           
     ALLOCATION:    Energy Assistance Program                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     ADD:           $9,805,700                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     FUNDING SOURCE: 1004 General Funds                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative Nelson  discussed the amendment,  which would                                                                    
add $9.8  million General  Fund dollars  to the  Division of                                                                    
Public   Assistance,  Energy   Assistance  Program   in  the                                                                    
Department  of  Health and  Social  Services  to expand  the                                                                    
State's ability  to provide energy assistance  to low income                                                                    
individuals  throughout the  State.    The amount  requested                                                                    
matches  the  existing  federal grant  contribution  to  Low                                                                    
Income Heating  Energy Assistance Program (LIHEAP).   LIHEAP                                                                    
is  a  federal  program,  providing  financial  heating  and                                                                    
weatherization  assistance.   The  federal contributions  in                                                                    
2008   were  $10.970   million  dollars,   while  the   FY09                                                                    
Governor's  budget indicates  $9.805  million  dollars.   In                                                                    
2006, the year  with the most recent  available data, Alaska                                                                    
provided  over  10,700  households  with  financial  heating                                                                    
assistance, helping 23.4% of  the 45,817 eligible households                                                                    
in the State.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:53:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hawker  commented  on  his  objection.    He                                                                    
claimed that he has  always supported conservative economics                                                                    
and  had  voted against  the  Alaska's  Clear and  Equitable                                                                    
Share  (ACES) bill  because it  would  impair the  economy's                                                                    
ability  to sustain  needed cash  flow  in the  future.   He                                                                    
addressed the  negative concern regarding  energy subsidies.                                                                    
He concluded that  it would be an expensive  program and not                                                                    
sustainable.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Thomas recalled  his oppositional  testimony                                                                    
on ACES  due to the removal  of LIHEAP.  He  maintained that                                                                    
everyone  should  be  treated  fairly  and  that  all  State                                                                    
residents have energy needs.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:56:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gara  pointed  out  previous  year's  budget                                                                    
deficits,  however,  noted  that  this year,  the  State  of                                                                    
Alaska has a surplus of  money, dispelling any argument that                                                                    
there is  no extra money.   He strongly emphasized  the need                                                                    
to pass an  energy assistance bill.  He  recalled how LIHEAP                                                                    
had been  passed last  year.   Thirty-six other  states have                                                                    
passed some  sort of energy  legislation.  He  mentioned the                                                                    
fuel subsidy  provided from outside  the United  States (US)                                                                    
by  the  Venezuelan  government and  he  believed  that  was                                                                    
 acceptable.    He recommended that the  State be  patriotic                                                                    
and extend a hand.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Crawford   remembered  a   previous  Special                                                                    
Session  discussion  regarding  LIHEAP.   He  reported  that                                                                    
residents in his district want  those with the greatest need                                                                    
to receive  energy assistance.   He  voiced support  for the                                                                    
amendment.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:00:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Joule voiced appreciation  that the issue had                                                                    
been  brought forward,  yet suggested  that it  be discussed                                                                    
from both a  long-term and short-term perspective.   He felt                                                                    
that LIHEAP  was the  best way  to address  immediate short-                                                                    
term needs.   He gave an example of  energy saving behavior.                                                                    
He reminded members that some  people in Alaska have to make                                                                    
difficult choices  between food and  fuel.  He  testified in                                                                    
support of the amendment.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:04:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Thomas commented  on his  original ideas  on                                                                    
energy  rebates,  relating  a  personal  experience  with  a                                                                    
friend needing  energy assistance.   The  incidence provided                                                                    
the background  behind the  idea for a  $500 rebate  for the                                                                    
needy.   He did not think  that a "band aid  approach  could                                                                    
work.   He told another  personal story about the  limits to                                                                    
energy assistance and the need to help everyone.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Harris  noted support  of the  amendment, but                                                                    
recommended that  it be  placed into a  different bill.   He                                                                    
pointed out  it is  not a year-by-year  funded item  that it                                                                    
should be placed  into the capital budget.  He  agreed it is                                                                    
wrong to  create a band aid  approach.  The focus  should be                                                                    
on less  expensive energy  in the State.   He  spoke against                                                                    
the  amendment, but  was  willing to  address  the issue  in                                                                    
another way.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:08:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Nelson felt encouraged  by hearing that there                                                                    
are  other options.   She  requested  a vote.   She  offered                                                                    
further statistics  to support  the amendment,  pointing out                                                                    
the  number of  people in  Alaska  that are  suffering as  a                                                                    
result of  the energy crisis.   She maintained  that federal                                                                    
assistance is not keeping pace  in Alaska and agreed that it                                                                    
could be addressed in the capital budget.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hawker  MAINTAINED   his  OBJECTION  to  the                                                                    
amendment.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR:      Nelson, Crawford, Gara, Joule                                                                                    
OPPOSED:       Stoltze,   Thomas,  Harris,   Hawker,  Kelly,                                                                    
               Chenault, Meyer                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION FAILED (4-7).                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:12:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Crawford MOVED  to  ADOPT  amendment HSS  9.                                                                    
Representative Hawker OBJECTED for discussion purposes.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     DEPARTMENT:    Department   of    Health   and   Social                                                                    
Services                                                                                                                        
     APPROPRIATION: Behavioral Health                                                                                           
     ALLOCATION:    Behavioral Health Grants                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     ADD:           $100,000                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     FUNDING SOURCE: General Funds                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative Crawford stated that  the amendment would add                                                                    
an increment back into the  budget that was deleted from the                                                                    
Governor's amended  budget.  The money  would provide grants                                                                    
for  training  of service  providers  for  the treatment  of                                                                    
people with traumatic brain injuries.   The training program                                                                    
would include three separate components:                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
 •    Contracted brain injury specialists utilizing Alaska                                                                    
        Psychiatric   Institute's   tele-behavorial   health                                                                    
        project and other communication options for case                                                                        
        consultation;                                                                                                           
   •    Regional workshops specific to needs of the area                                                                      
        utilizing multidisciplinary hub and spoke model                                                                         
        highlighting the needs across several life domain;                                                                      
        and                                                                                                                     
  •    Developing training format and material to include                                                                     
        self study modules utilized in other states.  The                                                                       
        project is designated grant request to the Alaska                                                                       
        Brain Injury Advisory Board.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative Crawford  continued that the  increment would                                                                    
ensure  that every  provider serving  Alaskans with  a brain                                                                    
injury would  have access to  a brain injury  specialist for                                                                    
consultation and  would have  a road map  on how  to address                                                                    
the screening, assessment, referral and treatment planning.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hawker explained that HSS  9 was an item that                                                                    
was requested by the Alaska  Mental Health Trust.  There had                                                                    
been confusion about the funding  for Traumatic Brain Injury                                                                    
(TBI).  It had not  made it through the subcommittee process                                                                    
due to the above mentioned confusion.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:17:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hawker  MOVED  to  AMEND  HSS  Amendment  9,                                                                    
changing the fund  source to the Alaska  Mental Health Trust                                                                    
Authority (AMHTA).   There being NO  OBJECTION, the proposed                                                                    
change was adopted.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Hawker  WITHDREW   his  OBJECTION   to  the                                                                    
amendment.  There being NO  further OBJECTION, amended HSS 9                                                                    
was adopted.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:19:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DEPARTMENT OF LABOR AND WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Chenault  MOVED to  ADOPT amendment  LABOR 1.   Co-                                                                    
Chair Meyer OBJECTED.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                              
     DEPARTMENT:   Department    of   Labor    &   Workforce                                                                    
Development                                                                                                                     
     APPROPRIATION: Construction Academy Training                                                                               
     ALLOCATION:    Construction Academy Training                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     ADD:           $3,5000 OTI                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     FUNDING SOURCE: General Funds                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Chenault explained  that  the Alaska  Construction                                                                    
Academy training  opportunities, more  appropriately belongs                                                                    
in the operating  budget, not in the capital  as proposed by                                                                    
the Administration.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Meyer  WITHDREW his  OBJECTION.    There being  NO                                                                    
further OBJECTION, it was adopted.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:20:05 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Chenault  MOVED to  ADOPT amendment  LABOR 2.   Co-                                                                    
Chair Meyer OBJECTED.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     DEPARTMENT:   Department    of   Labor    &   Workforce                                                                    
Development                                                                                                                     
     APPROPRIATION:    Commissioner    and    Administrative                                                                    
Services                                                                                                                        
     ALLOCATION:    Office of Citizenship                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     DELETE:        $65.6 General Funds                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     DELETE the following intent language:                                                                                      
     It  is   the  intent   of  the  legislature   that  the                                                                    
     Department of Labor and  Workforce Development use this                                                                    
     allocation to  fund a  permanent full-time  position in                                                                    
     the  Kodiak  Job  Center and  eliminate  the  permanent                                                                    
     full-time position in the Juneau Job Center.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Chenault  noted that the  amendment would  zero out                                                                    
the allocation  and would eliminate the  intent language for                                                                    
the Office  of Citizenship.   He stated that  those services                                                                    
are provided by the federal government.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Meyer  agreed, indicating  that  it  has become  a                                                                    
duplicative   function   provided   also  by   the   federal                                                                    
government.  He agreed the  State funding should be limited.                                                                    
The congressional delegation has  offices in Juneau and they                                                                    
could be contacted regarding such matters.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer WITHDREW his OBJECTION.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:22:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gara OBJECTED,  noting  that people  without                                                                    
money  attempting to  obtain  citizenship  cannot afford  to                                                                    
hire  an attorney  for help.    He addressed  the Office  of                                                                    
Citizenship's  role, advising  that the  State only  assists                                                                    
with legal immigration issues.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer  reported that the  Juneau position  had been                                                                    
vacant for a year and that  there had not been a high demand                                                                    
for those services.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Stoltze agreed  with  the  comments of  Co-Chair                                                                    
Meyer.   He  opined that  the amendment  was not  consistent                                                                    
with  the Department  of Labor  and Workforce  Development's                                                                    
mission.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara MAINTAINED his OBJECTION.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR:      Thomas,   Harris,  Hawker,   Kelly,  Stoltze,                                                                    
               Chenault, Meyer                                                                                                  
OPPOSED:       Crawford, Gara, Joule, Nelson                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION PASSED (7-4).                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:28:39 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Crawford WITHDREW LABOR 3.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative Crawford  MOVED to  ADOPT amendment  LABOR 4.                                                                    
Co-Chair Meyer OBJECTED.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     DEPARTMENT:   Department    of   Labor    &   Workforce                                                                    
Development                                                                                                                     
     APPROPRIATION: Workforce Development                                                                                       
     ALLOCATION:    Southwest Alaska Vocational & Education                                                                     
                  Center Operating Grants                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     ADD:           $195,000                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     FUNDING SOURCE: 1004 General Funds                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Crawford explained  that  the amendment  was                                                                    
requested  by  Governor  Palin through  her  2/13/08  budget                                                                    
amendments,  which   was  rejected   by  the   House  budget                                                                    
subcommittee.    Southwest  Alaska  Vocational  &  Education                                                                    
Center  (SAVEC's) federal  earmark for  operational expenses                                                                    
will  end  in FY08.    Receipts  are insufficient  to  cover                                                                    
operating costs.   Without temporary assistance,  the Center                                                                    
would not  be able to  operate in  FY09.  General  Funds are                                                                    
requested to  sustain operations for  one year.   The Center                                                                    
is located in King Salmon and serves the Bristol Bay area.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:30:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Joule  spoke   of  a   personal  experience                                                                    
visiting  the   Southwest  Alaska  Vocational   &  Education                                                                    
Center.  He urged support for the amendment.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Meyer acknowledged  that it  is a  federal earmark                                                                    
that will  no longer be  received.  He reported  that monies                                                                    
had just been  approved for the construction  of the academy                                                                    
and  the  pipeline  training.     The  center  does  receive                                                                    
Vocational-Technical Education Center  (VOC/TEC) funds.  The                                                                    
Administration  wants to  develop a  strategic plan  to take                                                                    
care of all training center needs.   He pointed out that the                                                                    
Red  Dog mine  was contributing  to the  training center  in                                                                    
Fairbanks.    He  thought  that  they  should  seek  funding                                                                    
dollars from the mining or fishing industry.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:35:35 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Harris asked  about the  anticipated end  of                                                                    
the federal  earmark dollars and  questioned if  the VOC/TEC                                                                    
facility  would close.    Representative Crawford  responded                                                                    
that it  would not be  closing but rather would  be operated                                                                    
by  an employee  with no  services offered.   The  education                                                                    
season would  be lost.   He questioned  whether it  could be                                                                    
placed  into  the  capital budget.    Representative  Harris                                                                    
asked  if Representative  Crawford  would  be supportive  of                                                                    
working on  it through  the capital budget.   Representative                                                                    
Crawford replied he gratefully would.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative Crawford WITHDREW amendment Labor 4.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:37:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DEPARTMENT OF LAW                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Stoltze   MOVED  to   ADOPT  amendment   LAW  1.                                                                    
Representative Gara OBJECTED.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     DEPARTMENT:         Department of Law                                                                                      
     APPROPRIATION:      Civil Division                                                                                         
     ALLOCATION:         Commercial & Fair Business                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     DELETE:             $503.2 SPDR (1108)                                                                                     
     ADD:                $263.2 General Fund (1004)                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     MODIFY conditioning language as follows:                                                                                   
     The amount  allocated for Commercial and  Fair Business                                                                    
     section   includes  the   unexpected  and   unobligated                                                                    
     balance  on  June  30,   2008,  of  designated  program                                                                    
     receipts  [and general  fund program  receipts] of  the                                                                    
     Department of  Law, Commercial & Fair  business section                                                                    
     that  are required  by  the terms  of  a settlement  or                                                                  
     judgment  to  be  spent  by   the  State  for  consumer                                                                  
     education or consumer protection.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Stoltze explained that  the amendment would limit                                                                    
receipts that  could be  carried forward  to those  that are                                                                    
restricted to use  of consumer education or  protection.  It                                                                    
could reduce  the authorization level  of those  receipts to                                                                    
what  is intended  to  be a  sustainable  level of  spending                                                                    
($400).    The  reduction   in  authorization  prevents  the                                                                    
Department   from  depleting   its  reserves   of  Statutory                                                                    
Designated  Program Receipts  (SDPR).   The Department  will                                                                    
require  partial  replacement  of  the  SDPR  (with  General                                                                    
Funds) in order to maintain the current level of activity.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara  asked if the amendment  would alter any                                                                    
departmental  plans  for  next year's  staffing.    Co-Chair                                                                    
Chenault understood that the Department  of Law supports the                                                                    
plan.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara WITHDREW his  OBJECTION.  There being NO                                                                    
further OBJECTION, it was adopted.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:39:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Stoltze   MOVED  to   ADOPT  amendment   LAW  2.                                                                    
Representative Gara OBJECTED.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     DEPARTMENT:         Department of Law                                                                                      
     APPROPRIATION:      BP Corrosion (New)                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     ADD:                $4,700,00 OTI                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     FUNDING SOURCE:          General Funds (1004)                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair   Stoltze  explained   that   the  BP   Corrosion                                                                    
Litigation funding,  which created  a new  appropriation for                                                                    
the  Oil,  Gas  and  Mining allocation.    The  subcommittee                                                                    
received an amendment  request less than one  day before the                                                                    
scheduled  closeout  meeting  and   did  not  have  time  to                                                                    
recommend a funding level.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
LAW 2  requests $4.7  million dollars  for the  BP Corrosion                                                                    
Litigation  request. It  also places  "sideboards" on  where                                                                    
the appropriation can  be spent by placing the  Oil, Gas and                                                                    
Mining allocation into its own  separate appropriation.  The                                                                    
current  allocation for  Oil, Gas  and  Mining contained  on                                                                    
line 22 of the draft would  be removed and added to the $4.7                                                                    
million dollars approved in the  amendment and placed into a                                                                    
new separate appropriation.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
The  agency's provided  the  following  explanation for  the                                                                    
requested increment:                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Department of Law  requests an appropriation for  FY 2009 in                                                                    
the amount  of $4.7 million  to pursue claims  for penalties                                                                    
and lost revenues  for the 2006 Prudhoe  Bay pipeline spills                                                                    
and   production  shutdowns.     The   Department's  current                                                                    
investigation, funded through the  Response Fund, is ongoing                                                                    
but  is  expected to  be  complete  next  fall.   A  limited                                                                    
tolling agreement  with BP  Exploration (Alaska),  Inc. with                                                                    
regard to potential claims subject  to a two year statute of                                                                    
limitations will expire  as early as September  2008.  While                                                                    
the  investigation is  not yet  complete, Department  of Law                                                                    
anticipates making  a recommendation  to pursue  the State's                                                                    
claims.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
The  subcommittee understands  that it  is unlikely  that an                                                                    
agreement could  be reached to  resolve the claims  prior to                                                                    
expiration  of the  tolling agreement.    Expiration of  the                                                                    
tolling agreement means that the  State would need to file a                                                                    
court  case later  this year  or risk  certain claims  being                                                                    
time  barred; hence  this request  for  an appropriation  to                                                                    
fund the anticipated litigation in FY 2009.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
He  continued that  the  Department  of Law's  investigation                                                                    
includes evaluation  of claims  for lost  revenues.   At the                                                                    
Alaska  Legislature  Joint   Natural  Resources  Committees'                                                                    
hearing on  August 18, 2006,  former Attorney  General David                                                                    
W.  Marquez  outlined   the  Department's  investigation  of                                                                    
spills and  pipeline corrosion issues. His  written comments                                                                    
are  available.   As directed  by the  former Governor,  the                                                                    
effort includes "reviewing  the State's rights, particularly                                                                    
the full extent  to which BP and possibly  other parties can                                                                    
be  held  legally responsible  for  losses  incurred by  the                                                                    
state."                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Stoltze added  that due  to delays  in obtaining                                                                    
documents and information from BP,  the investigation is not                                                                    
yet  complete.   Although to  date, approximately  2 million                                                                    
pages of documents have  been provided, subpoenaed documents                                                                    
important  to  evaluation  of  the   losses  have  not  been                                                                    
produced.   Based  upon information  gathered  to date,  the                                                                    
Department anticipates  making a recommendation  to commence                                                                    
litigation to  recover the State's  revenue losses,  as well                                                                    
as  civil penalties  and damages  under  the   environmental                                                                    
statutes.   In March  and August of  2006, crude  oil leaked                                                                    
from  oil transit  lines (OTL5)  operated by  BP at  Prudhoe                                                                    
Bay.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
In its  Plea Agreement  with the  United States  executed in                                                                    
October 2007, BP acknowledged that  it "acted negligently by                                                                    
failing to  adequately inspect  and clean  the OTLs."    The                                                                    
company is  "required to operate  the OTL's as  a reasonable                                                                    
operator."    BP "did  not  expend  sufficient resources  to                                                                    
address the complex issues of  corrosion in the OTL's."  "BP                                                                    
failed to clean  the OTL's with a piece  of equipment called                                                                    
a  maintenance  pig  and  inspect  the  pipe  for  corrosion                                                                    
activity with  a smart pig."   The admissions are  borne out                                                                    
by  the State's  investigation.   BP documents  substantiate                                                                    
that  these  failings  resulted  in  shutdowns  and  reduced                                                                    
production of  tens of millions  of barrels of crude  oil in                                                                    
2006-07.  The loss of revenue  in royalties and taxes to the                                                                    
State  for those  years amounts  to several  hundred million                                                                    
dollars.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
He  maintained  that this  is  a  complex matter  with  many                                                                    
documents.   It is anticipated  that the FY  2009 litigation                                                                    
phase  activities  will  cost  $4.7  million  for  costs  of                                                                    
counsel,  document   management,  experts,   and  litigation                                                                    
costs. The case budget for FY 2009 is broken down into pre-                                                                     
litigation   filing   activities   with   nine   months   of                                                                    
litigation.   It  is anticipated  that  the litigation  will                                                                    
last three  to fours  years and that  further appropriations                                                                    
will be needed in future years.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Chenault reiterated  that the  request would  be a                                                                    
multi-year component.  He noted  the backup contained in the                                                                    
previous amendment.   He  understood that  there would  be a                                                                    
request each year for the litigation process.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Meyer  WITHDREW his  OBJECTION.    There being  NO                                                                    
further OBJECTION, it was adopted.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:42:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DEPARTMENT OF MILITARY AND VETERANS AFFAIRS                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Stoltze  MOVED to  ADOPT amendment  DMVA 1.   Co-                                                                    
Chair Meyer OBJECTED.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     DEPARTMENT: Department of Military & Veterans Affairs                                                                      
     APPROPRIATION: Military & Veteran's Affairs                                                                                
     ALLOCATION:    AK. Statewide Emergency Communications                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     DELETE:        $3.3 Federal (1002)                                                                                         
     ADD:           $3.3 General Funds (1004)                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Stoltze  explained   that  the  amendment  would                                                                    
correct an  FY08 fund source  change that  was inadvertently                                                                    
removed.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Meyer  WITHDREW his  OBJECTION.    There being  NO                                                                    
further OBJECTION, it was adopted.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:43:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Stoltze  MOVED to  ADOPT amendment  DMVA 2.   Co-                                                                    
Chair Meyer OBJECTED.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     DEPARTMENT:   Department of Military & Veterans                                                                            
Affairs                                                                                                                         
     APPROPRIATION: Military & Veterans Affairs                                                                                 
     ALLOCATION:    Veterans Services                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     ADD:           $30,000                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     FUNDING SOURCE: General Fund (1004)                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Stoltze explained  the  amendment would  provide                                                                    
increased grants  for the Veterans  outreach  programs.  The                                                                    
Veterans'   service  organization   might   play  the   most                                                                    
important role in  the veteran community.   The Veterans  of                                                                    
Foreign Wars, the American Legion  and the Disabled Veterans                                                                    
of  America interact  daily  with Alaskans  and  are led  by                                                                    
veterans who have earned the trust of their brothers.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Harris   inquired  who  had   requested  the                                                                    
amendment.  Vice-Chair Stoltze responded  that the issue has                                                                    
been ongoing for the past  few years and that Representative                                                                    
Foster  had supported  the  intent.   Representative  Harris                                                                    
indicated  his support  for the  amendment, noting  that the                                                                    
issue had not been addressed  for quite some time.  Co-Chair                                                                    
Chenault agreed.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Harris MOVED to  AMEND the amount, raising it                                                                    
to $45 thousand  dollars.  There being NO  OBJECTION, DMVA 2                                                                    
was amended.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer  WITHDREW his OBJECTION  to the  amended DMVA                                                                    
2.  There being NO further OBJECTION, it was adopted.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:47:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DEPARTMENT OF NATURAL RESOURCES                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kelly MOVED  to ADOPT DNR 1.   Co-Chair Meyer                                                                    
OBJECTED.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
    DEPARTMENT:         Department of Natural Resources                                                                         
     APPROPRIATION:      Fire Suppression                                                                                       
     ALLOCATION:         Fire suppression Preparedness                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     DELETE:             $61.0 General Funds                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kelly explained  that the subcommittee budget                                                                    
had  inadvertently   included  $61  thousand   General  Fund                                                                    
dollars more than what was  requested for the cost increases                                                                    
for  helicopters and  fixed-wing  aircraft  contracts.   The                                                                    
amendment would  remove the $61  thousand dollars  of excess                                                                    
General Funds.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Meyer  WITHDREW his  OBJECTION.    There being  NO                                                                    
further OBJECTION, it was adopted.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:48:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kelly  MOVED to ADOPT  amendment DNR 2.   Co-                                                                    
Chair Meyer OBJECTED.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
    DEPARTMENT:         Department of Natural Resources                                                                         
     APPROPRIATION:      Resource Development                                                                                   
     ALLOCATION:         Geological Development                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     ADD:                $1,200.0                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     FUNDING SOURCE:          $850.0 General Fund                                                                               
                         $350.0 State Designated Receipts                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kelly explained the  amendment would move the                                                                    
requested  dollar  amount from  the  capital  budget to  the                                                                    
operating budget.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Meyer  WITHDREW his  OBJECTION.    There being  NO                                                                    
further OBJECTION, it was adopted.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:49:00 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Kelly  MOVED  to   ADOPT  amendment  DNR  3.                                                                    
Representative Hawker OBJECTED.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
    DEPARTMENT:         Department of Natural Resources                                                                         
     APPROPRIATION:      Resource Development                                                                                   
     ALLOCATION:         Oil & Gas Development                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     ADD:                $200.0                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     FUNDING SOURCE:          General Funds - $200.0                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kelly explained the  amendment would move the                                                                    
requested amount  from the capital  budget to  the operating                                                                    
budget and changes  the fund source from  the Alaska Capital                                                                    
Fund to General Fund.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hawker  WITHDREW his OBJECTION.   There being                                                                    
NO further OBJECTION, it was adopted.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:49:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kelly MOVED to ADOPT amendment ADOPT DNR 4.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
    DEPARTMENT:         Department of Natural Resources                                                                         
     APPROPRIATION:      State Public Domain & Access                                                                           
     ALLOCATION:         RS2477/Navigability Assertions &                                                                       
                         Litigation Support                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     ADD:                $300.0                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     FUNDING SOURCE:          General Funds                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Kelly  explained  that the  amendment  would                                                                    
move the  component funding from  the capital budget  to the                                                                    
operating  budget.    There  being   NO  OBJECTION,  it  was                                                                    
adopted.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
AT EASE:       4:50:22 PM                                                                                                     
RECONVENE:          4:51:13 PM                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kelly  MOVED to ADOPT  amendment DNR 5.   Co-                                                                    
Chair Chenault OBJECTED.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
    DEPARTMENT:         Department of Natural Resources                                                                         
     APPROPRIATION:      State   Public   Domain  &   Public                                                                    
Access                                                                                                                          
     ALLOCATION:         RS2477/Navigability Assertions &                                                                       
                         Litigation Support                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     ADD:                $100.0                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     FUNDING SOURCE:          General Funds                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Kelly  explained  that   DNR  5  would  move                                                                    
funding from the capital budget  to the operating budget and                                                                    
authorize one  new Natural  Resource Specialist  II position                                                                    
to support the RS2477  Surveys providing on-site inspection,                                                                    
public  issue   resolution,  research  and   small  contract                                                                    
management.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Chenault WITHDREW  his OBJECTION.  There being  NO                                                                    
further OBJECTION, it was adopted.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:52:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Kelly  MOVED  to   ADOPT  amendment  DNR  6.                                                                    
Representative Hawker OBJECTED.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
    DEPARTMENT:         Department of Natural Resources                                                                         
     APPROPRIATION:      Parks & Recreation Management                                                                          
     ALLOCATION:         Parks & Recreation Access                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     ADD:                $283,300                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     FUNDING SOURCE:          $70,000 Federal 1002                                                                              
                         $113,300    Interagency    Receipts                                                                    
10007                                                                                                                           
                         $100,000 SDPR 1108                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Kelly  explained  that costs  to  the  State                                                                    
parks, fish  and game, transportation and  public facilities                                                                    
and  other partner  projects are  increasing  each year  and                                                                    
additional  staff   was  needed  to  handle   the  increased                                                                    
workload.    Three new  positions  were  added in  the  FY08                                                                    
Management Plan  and two  seasonal positions  were converted                                                                    
to full time status.   New positions included an Engineering                                                                    
Assistant   to   perform  developmental   and   professional                                                                    
engineering duties for the  Design and Construction section;                                                                    
an Environmental  Impact Analyst to serve  as coordinator on                                                                    
environmental    studies,   construction    permitting   and                                                                    
monitoring to meet National  Environmental Policy Act (NEPA)                                                                    
compliance  standards;  and  a Natural  Resource  specialist                                                                    
assigned  to  the   Interpretation  and  Education  section.                                                                    
Those positions are  all currently filled.   The funding for                                                                    
the  positions is  derived directly  from the  projects they                                                                    
are  working on  (non General  Funds) and  a combination  of                                                                    
federal,  interagency   and  statutory   designated  program                                                                    
receipts.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hawker  WITHDREW his OBJECTION.   There being                                                                    
NO further OBJECTION, it was adopted.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:53:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Thomas MOVED  to ADOPT amendment DNR  7.  Co-                                                                    
Chair Chenault OBJECTED.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
    DEPARTMENT:         Department of Natural Resources                                                                         
     APPROPRIATION:      State Parks                                                                                            
     ALLOCATION:         Park Management                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     ADD:                $92.9                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     FUNDING SOURCE:          General Funds - OTI                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Thomas  explained  that the  Chilkoot  River                                                                    
Corridor is  an important public  use area in  northern Lynn                                                                    
Canal.   The  area boasts  an important  salmon run  used by                                                                    
sport,  subsistence and  commercial fishermen,  and is  also                                                                    
used  by the  general public  for outdoor  recreation.   The                                                                    
uses often  conflict and  there is  a serious  public safety                                                                    
issue  with  the  number  of bears  in  close  proximity  to                                                                    
anglers and  campers.  The amendment  would provide one-time                                                                    
funding for  a planning  process including  all stakeholders                                                                    
in a land use plan that will protect public safety.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Chenault  WITHDREW his  OBJECTION.  There  being NO                                                                    
further OBJECTION, it was adopted.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:56:00 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Stoltze   MOVED  to   ADOPT  amendment   DPS  1.                                                                    
Representative Hawker OBJECTED for discussion purposes.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     DEPARTMENT:         Department of Public Safety                                                                            
     APPROPRIATION:      Alaska Fire Standards Council                                                                          
     ALLOCATION:         Alaska Fire Standards Council                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     ADD:                $220,000                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     FUNDING SOURCE:          General Fund - 1004                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair   Stoltze   explained   that   the   subcommittee                                                                    
recommended  that  $220  thousand General  Fund  dollars  be                                                                    
added to the Alaska  Fire Standards Council appropriation to                                                                    
assist  the  council  is   developing  and  regulating  fire                                                                    
training standards.   The Alaska Fire  Standards Council was                                                                    
established by the Legislature in  1998; however, it has not                                                                    
been  adequately funded  to establish  and implement  needed                                                                    
fire training standards for  the fire departments throughout                                                                    
Alaska.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Harris  indicated   his  support   for  the                                                                    
amendment.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hawker  WITHDREW his OBJECTION.   There being                                                                    
NO further OBJECTION, it was adopted.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:59:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DEPARTMENT OF NATURAL RESOURCES                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Gara   requested   information   from   the                                                                    
Administration  regarding  changes   in  the  Department  of                                                                    
Natural  Resource budget.   He  mentioned concerns  with the                                                                    
monitoring  of  the  pipeline in  order  to  prevent  future                                                                    
spills.   In  previous years  it had  been addressed  in the                                                                    
Department   of   Environmental  Conservation   subcommittee                                                                    
process;  this  year  it  was moved  to  the  Department  of                                                                    
Natural Resources.   The  Administration is  requesting $530                                                                    
thousand  dollars for  additional staff,  which was  denied.                                                                    
He asked the position of the Administration.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KAREN REHFELD,  DIRECTOR, OFFICE  OF MANAGEMENT  AND BUDGET,                                                                    
responded that  in the proposed  budget, there is  a funding                                                                    
request from the Department of  Natural Resources and in the                                                                    
Department  of  Environmental  Conservation budget  for  the                                                                    
Petroleum  Assistance Integrity  Office  (PAIO).   There  is                                                                    
$837  thousand   dollars  in   the  Department   of  Natural                                                                    
Resources   and  four   positions  in   the  Department   of                                                                    
Environmental  Conservation.   In  the  amended budget,  the                                                                    
Administration requested  adding another four  positions and                                                                    
an additional $23  thousand dollars for those  efforts.  She                                                                    
offered to provide  details on the workload  of that Office.                                                                    
It  is an  important issue.    There was  a capital  project                                                                    
approved in FY08.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kelly noted that  the subcommittee denied the                                                                    
increase,  noting  that  the   growth  in  those  areas  was                                                                    
significant  for  both  departments.   It  has  dramatically                                                                    
increased.   He added that  there is concern with  the North                                                                    
Slope focus  and he  did not  want to see  it overdone.   He                                                                    
reiterated concern with the amount of growth in that area.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara  inquired the  Administration's position                                                                    
with the  loss of  the increment.   Ms. Rehfeld  pointed out                                                                    
that the  entire country is looking  at Alaska   responsible                                                                    
resource development.   The Governor believes  strongly that                                                                    
the area needs the resources to do the job.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gara   requested  that   the  Administration                                                                    
provide back-up regarding the monitoring  with & without the                                                                    
extra  funding.    Ms.  Rehfeld   offered  to  provide  that                                                                    
information.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
5:06:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Stoltze   MOVED  to   ADOPT  amendment   DPS  2.                                                                    
Representative Hawker OBJECTED.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     DEPARTMENT:         Department of Public Safety                                                                            
     APPROPRIATION:      Fire & Life Safety                                                                                     
     ALLOCATION:         Fire & Life Safety Operations                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     ADD:                $11.7 General Fund - 1004                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     DEPARTMENT:         Department of Public Safety                                                                            
     APPROPRIATION:      Alaska State Troopers                                                                                  
     ALLOCATION:         AK State Troopers Detachments                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     ADD:                $382.8 General Funds - 1004                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     DEPARTMENT:         Department of Public Safety                                                                            
     APPROPRIATION:      Statewide Support                                                                                      
     ALLOCATION:         Administrative Services                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     ADD:                $11.5 General Funds - 1004                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     DEPARTMENT:         Department of Public Safety                                                                            
     APPROPRIATION:      Statewide Support                                                                                      
     ALLOCATION:         Alcoholic Beverage Control Board                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     ADD:                $1.1 General Funds - 1004                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair   Stoltze  explained   that  the   House  Finance                                                                    
Committee  (HFC) subcommittee  received  the four  amendment                                                                    
requests  less than  one day  before the  scheduled closeout                                                                    
meeting and did  not have the time necessary  to recommend a                                                                    
fund  level.   This  is the  first time  in  years that  the                                                                    
agency  requested increments  for increased  vehicles costs.                                                                    
Per testimony  by the Department,  the agency has  been able                                                                    
to  absorb  the costs  by  utilizing  funds appropriated  to                                                                    
trooper detachments though vacancy  rate adjustments.  It is                                                                    
recommended  that  the  increments  be funded  at  half  the                                                                    
requested  level since  the subcommittee  has no  historical                                                                    
data to  review actual vehicle  costs.  A further  review of                                                                    
the costs and the trooper  vacancy rates will be examined in                                                                    
the next budget cycle.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hawker mentioned   truth  in budgeting;   he                                                                    
worried  about managing  the budget  through vacancy  rates.                                                                    
He  projected that  there will  be serious  issues over  the                                                                    
next few years  for the Department of Public  Safety to meet                                                                    
the State's core  issues.  He respected the  judgment of the                                                                    
subcommittee to honor half of the request.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hawker  WITHDREW his OBJECTION.   There being                                                                    
NO further OBJECTION, it was adopted.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
5:08:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DEPARTMENT OF NATURAL RESOURCES                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Harris  realized   that   neither  of   the                                                                    
commissioners   from   the   Department   of   Environmental                                                                    
Conservation   or  the   Department  of   Natural  Resources                                                                    
attended or  spoke with the subcommittee  chairs about their                                                                    
PAIO  requests.  He  requested that both those commissioners                                                                    
visit the Speaker's  office before the vote is  taken to the                                                                    
House floor.  Ms. Rehfeld agreed.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
5:10:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Stoltze MOVED to ADOPT amendment DPS 3.                                                                              
Representative Hawker OBJECTED.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     DEPARTMENT:         Department of Public Safety                                                                            
     APPROPRIATION:      Council on Domestic Violence &                                                                         
                      Sexual Assault                                                                                            
     ALLOCATION:         Council on Domestic Violence &                                                                         
                      Sexual Assault                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     DELETE:             $1.2                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     FUNDING SOURCE:          Permanent Fund Felon Funds                                                                        
(1171)                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Rehfeld requested a brief At-Ease.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
AT EASE:       5:10:35 PM                                                                                                     
RECONVENE:          5:27:20 PM                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Rehfeld  explained  that the  Administration  had  over                                                                    
allocated the amount of Permanent  Fund Dividend (PFD) felon                                                                    
funds  available for  expenditure  for  FY09; the  amendment                                                                    
corrects  that   and  reduces  the  authorization   by  $1.2                                                                    
thousand dollars.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hawker WITHDREW his OBJECTION.  There being                                                                      
NO further OBJECTION, it was adopted.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
5:28:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Stoltze MOVED to ADOPT amendment DPS 4.                                                                              
Representative Hawker OBJECTED for discussion.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     DEPARTMENT:    Department of Public Safety                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Page 31, INSERT after line 25:                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     It  is   the  intent   of  the  legislature   that  the                                                                    
     Department of  Public Safety provides  additional state                                                                    
     trooper coverage  for international  border communities                                                                    
     to   help   meet    Federal   and   Homeland   Security                                                                    
     requirements.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Page 32, INSERT after line 32:                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
          It  is   the  intent   of  the   legislature  that                                                                    
     Permanent Fund  felon and misdemeanant funds  should be                                                                    
     used  before  general  funds for  Council  on  Domestic                                                                    
   Violence and Sexual Assault (CDVSA) program funding.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     RENUMBER accordingly                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     EXPLANATION:   Intent Language                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     This  intent language  was approved  and listed  in the                                                                    
     subcommittee  report,  however  the  language  was  not                                                                    
     included  when the  committee  substitute was  drafted.                                                                    
     This   amendment    fulfills   the   wishes    of   the                                                                    
     subcommittee.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Stoltze  explained  the amendment,  addition  of                                                                    
intent   language,   was   approved  and   listed   in   the                                                                    
subcommittee  report; however,  the  language  had not  been                                                                    
included  when the  committee substitute  was drafted.   The                                                                    
amendment fulfills the wishes of the subcommittee.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hawker WITHDREW his OBJECTION.  There being                                                                      
NO further OBJECTION, it was adopted.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
5:30:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Stoltze MOVED to ADOPT amendment DPS 5.                                                                              
Representative Hawker OBJECTED for discussion purposes.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     DEPARTMENT:         Department of Public Safety                                                                            
     APPROPRIATION:      AST                                                                                                    
     ALLOCATION:         AST Detachment                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     ADD:                $75.0                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     FUNDING SOURCE:          General Funds                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Stoltze explained the amendment, which would                                                                         
restore funding to three shooting ranges:                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
   •    Anchorage                                                                                                             
   •    Fairbanks                                                                                                             
   •    Juneau                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hawker WITHDREW his OBJECTION.  There being                                                                      
NO further OBJECTION, it was adopted.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
5:33:35 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION AND PUBLIC FACILITIES                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative Thomas MOVED to ADOPT DOTPF 1.  Vice-Chair                                                                       
Stoltze OBJECTED.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
   DEPARTMENT:    Department of Transportation $ Public                                                                         
                    Facilities                                                                                                  
     APPROPRIATION: Commissioner's Office                                                                                       
     ALLOCATION:    Unallocated Reduction                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     DELETE:        $35,000                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     FUNDING SOURCE: General Funds                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative Thomas explained that the amendment would                                                                        
provide for the discontinuance of use of State funds for                                                                        
conducting public survey polls.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative Thomas proceeded to WITHDRAW the DOTPF 1.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
5:34:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Thomas MOVED to ADOPT amendment DOTPF 2.                                                                         
Co-Chair Chenault OBJECTED.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     DEPARTMENT:         Department of Transportation &                                                                         
                         Public Facilities                                                                                      
     APPROPRIATION:      Marine Highway System                                                                                  
     ALLOCATION:         Marine Vessel Operations                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     ADD:                $2,297,600          General    Fund                                                                    
(OTI)                                                                                                                           
                         $1,950,000          Marine Highway                                                                     
Funds                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     ADD the following Language:                                                                                                
     The amount  appropriated from the  General Fund  to the                                                                    
     Marine Highway  System, is reduced  by an  amount equal                                                                    
     to  any  appropriation  to the  Alaska  Marine  Highway                                                                    
     System  Fund (AS  19.65.060(a)  passed  by the  Twenty-                                                                    
     Fifth Alaska State Legislature in 2008 and enacted                                                                         
     into law; the reduction may not exceed $2,297,600.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Thomas   clarified   the  intent   of   the                                                                    
amendment,  which  provides  a one  time  increment  funding                                                                    
necessary for the Alaska Marine  Highway System to avoid the                                                                    
curtailment  of service  to Southwest  Alaska from  November                                                                    
2008  through April  2009 while  the M/V  Tustumena is  in a                                                                    
Capital Improvement  Project (CIP)  project.   The amendment                                                                    
would add back:                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
 •    Southwest service increased from one week per month                                                                     
        to two weeks per month;                                                                                                 
    •    Cross Gulf returning to two northbound and two                                                                       
        southbound {with stops in Yakutat) per month during                                                                     
        that time period; and that the                                                                                          
   •    Positively impacted communities would be Homer,                                                                       
        Seldovia, Chenga Bay, Kodiak, Whittier, Yakutat,                                                                        
        Ketchikan & Juneau.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Thomas MOVED  to AMEND  DOTPF 2  by deleting                                                                    
the language:                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
        "The  amount appropriated  from the  general                                                                            
        fund  to  the   Marine  Highway  System,  is                                                                            
        reduced   by   an   amount  equal   to   any                                                                            
        appropriation to  the Alaska  Marine Highway                                                                            
        System Fund (AS  19.65.060(aA) passed by the                                                                            
        Twenty-Fifth  Alaska  State  Legislature  in                                                                            
        2008  and enacted  into  law; the  reduction                                                                            
        may not exceed $2,297,600."                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
There being NO OBJECTION, the language was deleted.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Chenault  MAINTAINED his  OBJECTION on  the amended                                                                    
DOTPF  2.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR:      Crawford, Harris, Gara, Joule, Thomas                                                                            
OPPOSED:       Hawker, Kelly, Stoltze, Chenault, Meyer                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative Nelson was not present for the vote.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION FAILED (5-5).                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
5:38:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Thomas MOVED  to  ADOPT  amendment DOTPF  3.                                                                    
Co-Chair Chenault OBJECTED.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     DEPARTMENT:         Department of Transportation and                                                                       
                         Public Facilities                                                                                      
     APPROPRIATION:      Highways, Aviation & Facilities                                                                        
     ALLOCATION:         Central Region Highways & Aviation                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     ADD:                $300,000                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     FUNDING SOURCE:          General Funds                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative Thomas  explained that $300  thousand dollars                                                                    
be included in  the budget to purchase  calcium chloride for                                                                    
dust  control  in the  Central  Region.   Kodiak  and  other                                                                    
communities in  the Central Region  have limited  roads, but                                                                    
the parts  that are not  paved are hazardous during  the dry                                                                    
weather.   Limited visibility  for drivers,  health concerns                                                                    
for those  with respiratory problems, and  dust concerns for                                                                    
homeowners are factors that could  be tolerable if there was                                                                    
an  adequate amount  of calcium  chloride available  for all                                                                    
communities in the Central Region.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Chenault asked if  during the subcommittee process,                                                                    
it  was determined  that  there  were insufficient  amounts.                                                                    
Representative Thomas responded, it  was less than needed in                                                                    
only the Central Region area.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative Joule asked if  dust control activities could                                                                    
be happening  in other areas  of the State.   Representative                                                                    
Thomas explained  that the calcium  chloride work  should be                                                                    
addressed every year.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Chenault MAINTAINED  his OBJECTION,  claiming that                                                                    
health  concerns had  been addressed  in  the Department  of                                                                    
Transportation  and Public  Facilities budget.   He  pointed                                                                    
out  that  it  had  been  included  in  the  Capital  Budget                                                                    
requests.     He  maintained  that  there   are  other  more                                                                    
important issues in the budget, which need to be addressed.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR:      Gara, Joule, Thomas, Crawford                                                                                    
OPPOSED:       Harris,   Hawker,   Kelly,  Stoltze,   Meyer,                                                                    
               Chenault                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative Nelson was not present for the vote.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION FAILED (4-6).                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
5:41:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
UNIVERSITY OF ALASKA                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Chenault  MOVED   to   ADOPT   amendment  UA   1.                                                                    
Representative Hawker OBJECTED.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     DEPARTMENT:         University of Alaska                                                                                   
     APPROPRIATION:      University Campuses                                                                                    
     ALLOCATION:         University of Alaska - Anchorage                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     ADD:                $320.0 General Funds                                                                                   
                         $273.4 University Receipts                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     FUNDING SOURCE:          General    Fund,    University                                                                    
Receipts                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Chenault  explained that  the amendment  would fund                                                                    
the  College   of  Arts   and  Sciences   general  education                                                                    
requirements to meet  student demand for Tier 1  and Tier II                                                                    
general education courses.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hawker  WITHDREW his OBJECTION.   There being                                                                    
NO further OBJECTION, it was adopted.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
5:44:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Chenault MOVED  to ADOPT UA 2.   Vice-Chair Stoltze                                                                    
OBJECTED.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     DEPARTMENT:         University of Alaska                                                                                   
     APPROPRIATION:      University Campuses                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     ADD Intent Language:                                                                                                       
     It  is  the  intent   of  the  Legislature  that  those                                                                    
     students  qualifying  for  the  University's  Scholars'                                                                    
     Program who require  remedial coursework must reimburse                                                                    
     the  University   for  tuition  for   those  particular                                                                    
     courses.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Chenault  explained that  there  are  a number  of                                                                    
students  who  receive   scholarships  under  the  Scholar's                                                                    
Program, who must take remedial  courses prior to enrollment                                                                    
in regular & college levels.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Harris  questioned  if  that  were  a  large                                                                    
number of students  who qualify for that  program.  Co-Chair                                                                    
Chenault  responded  that  there   are  some  students  that                                                                    
qualify  for the  program that  are required  to take  those                                                                    
remedial classes.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Joule  added  comments,  noting  that  there                                                                    
should be  a legislative  discussion on  statewide education                                                                    
delivery.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Chenault WITHDREW UA 2.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
5:48:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Chenault  MOVED to ADOPT  UA 3.  Vice-Chair Stoltze                                                                    
OBJECTED.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     DEPARTMENT:         University of Alaska                                                                                   
     APPROPRIATION:      UAA - Small Business Development                                                                       
                         Center                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     ADD:                $550.0                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     FUNDING SOURCE:          Business License Receipts                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Chenault  acknowledged  that  the  component  more                                                                    
appropriately belongs  in the operating  budget, not  in the                                                                    
capital   budget.      The  Administration   requested   the                                                                    
appropriation be moved.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Stoltze  WITHDREW his OBJECTION.   There being NO                                                                    
OBJECTION, it was adopted.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
5:49:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kelly MOVED  to ADOPT Amendment UA  4.  Vice-                                                                    
Chair Stoltze OBJECTED.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     DEPARTMENT:         University of Alaska                                                                                   
     APPROPRIATION:      University of Alaska Campuses                                                                          
     ALLOCATION:         System Reductions/Additions                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     ADD:                $3201.1                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     FUNDING SOURCE:          General Funds                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Kelly  explained  that the  amendment  would                                                                    
restore funding for  non-represented step increased requests                                                                    
as calculated by  the University & using a  grid rather than                                                                    
a step increase system.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Stoltze WITHDREW his OBJECTION. There being NO                                                                       
further OBJECTION, it was adopted.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
5:51:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kelly MOVED to ADOPT amendment UA 5.  Vice-                                                                      
Chair Stoltze OBJECTED.                                                                                                         
     DEPARTMENT:         University of Alaska                                                                                   
     APPROPRIATION:      Statewide Programs & Services                                                                          
     ALLOCATION:         Statewide Programs & Services                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     ADD:                $202.2                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     FUNDING SOURCE:          General Funds                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kelly explained that the amendment would add                                                                     
programs and services for the step increase requests.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Stoltze WITHDREW his OBJECTION.  There being NO                                                                      
further OBJECTION, it was adopted.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
5:52:20 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara WITHDREW amendment UA 6.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
5:52:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Joule MOVED to ADOPT amendment UA 7.  Vice-                                                                      
Chair Stoltze OBJECTED.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     DEPARTMENT:         University of Alaska                                                                                   
     APPROPRIATION:      University of Alaska                                                                                   
     ALLOCATION:         Statewide   Budget   Reductions   /                                                                    
                         Additions-System wide                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     ADD:                $600,000                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     FUNDING SOURCE:          1004 General Funds                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Joule spoke  to the  amendment, which  would                                                                    
address  the Alaska  Native  Science  & Engineering  Program                                                                    
(ANSEP).   In  May  2008,   ANSEP  will  graduate 23  Alaska                                                                    
Native engineers  and scientists from the  University.  More                                                                    
than  50  organizations support  the  effort  with cash  and                                                                    
internships.     Beginning   with   high  school   freshmen,                                                                    
structured  programs  lead students  each  step  of the  way                                                                    
through  high school,  into the  undergraduate years,  on to                                                                    
gradate school and  into professional life.   At each level,                                                                    
the  goal is  to  create empowerment  and excitement  around                                                                    
careers in engineering and science.   ANSEP is unique from a                                                                    
budgetary  perspective.     Funding  formulas   for  neither                                                                    
Alaskan high schools, nor the  University system cover ANSEP                                                                    
costs, yet both benefit from the program.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
5:58:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Harris  inquired  if the  request  had  been                                                                    
included in  the University's budget.   Representative Joule                                                                    
explained that  the total  budget is a  little more  than $2                                                                    
million  dollars, of  which $300  thousand dollars  is State                                                                    
money.   It is  uncertain how much  longer the  "soft" money                                                                    
will  be available.    The appropriation  would  add in  the                                                                    
partnership.    Representative  Harris  questioned  if  $300                                                                    
thousand would be sufficient.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
6:00:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Chenault  acknowledged that the program  appears to                                                                    
be working.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Chenault  MOVED to AMEND  amendment UA 7  to delete                                                                    
"$600 hundred  thousand dollars"  and insert  "$300 thousand                                                                    
dollars,   indicating  it should  be  used  for tutoring  in                                                                    
distance  learning.   Representative  Joule understood  that                                                                    
success comes in  incremental steps.  He accepted  that as a                                                                    
"friendly" amendment.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kelly  OBJECTED.  He clarified  that there is                                                                    
federal funding,  but there  is no  request in  the Regent's                                                                    
budget for  the item.   He expressed concern that  the funds                                                                    
would be targeted and the focus split.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Chenault  stipulated   his  preference   for  the                                                                    
tutoring  and long  distance  learning programs,  explaining                                                                    
that the intent was to minimize management.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
6:03:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kelly expressed concern that steps have by-                                                                      
passed the University Board of  Regent's process; he did not                                                                    
want to see a split  appropriation, telling educators how to                                                                    
allocate their funds.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion to amendment UA 8.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR:      Gara,   Hawker,   Joule,   Stoltze,   Thomas,                                                                    
               Crawford, Harris, Chenault,                                                                                      
OPPOSED:       Kelly                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative Nelson was not present for the vote.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION PASSED (9-1).                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
6:05:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
A roll call  vote was taken on the main  motion to adopt the                                                                    
amended UA 8.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR:      Gara,   Hawker,   Joule,   Stoltze,   Thomas,                                                                    
               Crawford, Harris, Chenault, Meyer                                                                                
OPPOSED:       Kelly                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative Nelson was not present for the vote.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION PASSED (9-1).                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
6:06:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Crawford  MOVED  to ADOPT  amendment  UA  8.                                                                    
Vice-Chair Stoltze OBJECTED.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     DEPARTMENT:         University of Alaska                                                                                   
     APPROPRIATION:      University of Alaska                                                                                   
     ALLOCATION:         Budget Reductions / Additions-                                                                         
                        System-wide                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     ADD:                $5,318,900                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     FUNDING SOURCE:          1004 General Funds                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Crawford explained  that the University Board                                                                    
of Regents   recommended  increased funding  for initiatives                                                                    
to improve  student success and  prepare Alaskans  for Jobs.                                                                    
The   funding  was   not   included   in  the   subcommittee                                                                    
recommendation.   The  amendment would  provide funding  for                                                                    
the following efforts:                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
   •    Preparing Alaskans for Jobs: Fisheries - $1 million                                                                   
 •    University   Research    Investment:    Engineering,                                                                    
        Transportation, & Energy - $500 thousand                                                                                
 •    University Research Investment: Biomedical, Health &                                                                    
        Competitive Research - $1.6 million dollars                                                                             
    •    Student Success: Meeting Student Demand - $300                                                                       
        thousand dollars                                                                                                        
 •    Student Success: Student Success Initiatives - $1.5                                                                     
        million dollars                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
6:11:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Chenault pointed out that  some of the programs had                                                                    
merit, however, he had reservations regarding a few.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR:      Joule, Crawford, Gara                                                                                            
OPPOSED:       Kelly,   Stoltze,  Thomas,   Harris,  Hawker,                                                                    
               Meyer, Chenault                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative Nelson was not present for the vote.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION FAILED (3-7).                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
6:14:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kelly MOVED  to ADOPT amendment UA  9.  Vice-                                                                    
Chair Stoltze OBJECTED.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     DEPARTMENT:         University of Alaska                                                                                   
     APPROPRIATION:      University of Alaska                                                                                   
     ALLOCATION:         System Reductions/Additions                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     ADD:                $364.3                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     FUNDING SOURCE:          General Funds - 1004                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Kelly  explained  that the  amendment  would                                                                    
reinstate funding  for step increases for  the Alaska Higher                                                                    
Education  Crafts and  Trades  Employees, the  "blue-collar"                                                                    
employee.    There  is  a  tentative  agreement  that  those                                                                    
members  are in  the process  of ratifying.   The  agreement                                                                    
includes small grid movements and  high dependence on annual                                                                    
steps.   By  law,  if the  terms of  the  contracts are  not                                                                    
funded,   the   University   cannot   pay   the   negotiated                                                                    
provisions.   Meeting the  terms of  the contract,  which is                                                                    
expected to  be ratified,  requires restoration of  the $264                                                                    
thousand  dollars cut  by the  subcommittee.   In subsequent                                                                    
collective  bargaining  negotiations,  the  University  will                                                                    
present an  alternative compensation  schedule that  is more                                                                    
grid reliant than step for adoption.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Stoltze  WITHDREW his OBJECTION.   There being NO                                                                    
further OBJECTION, it was amended.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
6:15:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Joule  indicated  his  appreciation  of  the                                                                    
process  that the  Co-Chairs provided  to the  House Finance                                                                    
Committee during the budget deliberation process.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Thomas  echoed   previous  comments,  adding                                                                    
gratitude to the Administration  and the Legislative Finance                                                                    
Division   staff   for   their  willingness   to   helpfully                                                                    
participate.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Stoltze directed  his  comments  to the  reduced                                                                    
time  schedule  the  subcommittees   had.    He  stated  his                                                                    
appreciation of the process.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Kelly requested  that the Legislative Finance                                                                    
Division  submit a  spreadsheet indicating  all the  changes                                                                    
made by the whole Committee during the budget process.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Chenault acknowledged  frustrations regarding  the                                                                    
process and  the difficulty, which resulted  from the 90-day                                                                    
session.    He listed  the  difficulties  resulting for  the                                                                    
subcommittees given the shortened  deliberation periods.  He                                                                    
emphasized that  the process had  suffered given  the 90-day                                                                    
session.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Meyer MOVED  to  report  CS HB  310  (FIN) out  of                                                                    
Committee  as amended  with  individual recommendations  and                                                                    
providing permission to allow  the Alaska Legal Services and                                                                    
Legislative   Finance  Division,   latitude   to  make   all                                                                    
necessary  technical  and  conforming  corrections.    There                                                                    
being NO OBJECTION, it was so ordered.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CS  HB  310  (FIN)  was   reported  out  of  Committee  with                                                                    
"individual" recommendations.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Meyer MOVED  to  report  CS HB  312  (FIN) out  of                                                                    
Committee  as amended  with  individual recommendations  and                                                                    
providing permission to allow  the Alaska Legal Services and                                                                    
Legislative   Finance  Division,   latitude   to  make   all                                                                    
necessary  technical  and  conforming  corrections.    There                                                                    
being NO OBJECTION, it was so ordered.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CS HB  312 (FIN) was  reported out  of Committee with  a "do                                                                    
pass" recommendation                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                

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